Ever since I started getting into ebikes I’ve wanted to build a high power torque sensing ebike. The main problem is that the more power you want to put through your motor, the more sensitive the torque sensing system needs to be. Although the ebike markets of the world are flooded with 250-350 Watt Torque sensing motors, there is nothing on the market that even comes close to comparing to the new Bafang Ultra Max drive tricked out with a Lunacycle 2500W Ludicrous controller. Eric has been slaving away for months to bring what he considers to be the ultimate ebike to market, and the Apex does not disappoint. When deciding what to equip the Apex with, they really spared no expense with the optional $1800 Rohloff IGH and $600 carbon fiber rims. Riding the Apex on the street feels like what you think a $5000+ ebike should feel like and pedaling the Ultra Max drive really makes you feel like Clark Kent. Please be aware that the Luna Apex is not even remotely street legal in any state. Although it can be neutered to be made street legal, you absolutely would never ever want to do that.
An unnamed reviewer from the leading ebike review site offered to review the Luna Apex for the cool fee of $750 and a free ebike. To me this seems downright dishonest. How can you possibly produce an objective review of a product when you’re getting the ebike for free and $750. This reviewer is not making money off the advertising, he’s making a killing fleecing ebike companies for crappy review after crappy review. I’ve driven from NY to LA 3 times in the last 2 years on my own dime to hang out at Lunacycle and spend a few days thrashing on his newest ebikes. If I try a product I don’t like then I simply don’t write about it. Although I was skeptical of the Apex, I can say with some certainty that The Apex is an ebike worth writing about. My reviewing fee? How about a $5 Burrito and a slap on the back (great job … sucker). Did you know that I’m so poor that as of Jan 1st, 2018 I now qualify for Medicaid?
Lunacycle had been having a lot of issues getting the programming on the Ultra Max drive right and it seemed like even the Bafang engineers didn’t know what the settings in their own firmware programming does. Without any knowledge of what any of the settings on the new Bafang Ultra Max drive did I spent 4 hours tweaking the settings to get them just right. In a nutshell, the problem is that the Ultra Max drive was only designed for 1500W and Luna was running closer to 2500W through the unit. Not only did the startup at higher power levels feel insanely sketchy, they were burning out nylon gears left and right at high speeds. After a lot of head banging and cutting the power of the drive unit down to 1/20 of the original power from a standstill I ended up getting a drive unit that performed the way I thought it should. Luke and Kyle tested the bike pretty extensively and they agreed. I found the tweaking of the setting on the Ultra Max drive invaluable and I got a pretty good understanding in those 4 hours of what most of the parameters do (the programming guide is coming soon).
The Apex was transformed with the proper programming from an ebike I would probably never buy (too sketchy) to something that was really fun to ride. I tested the Apex extensively both on the streets of LA and on some gnarly intermediate single track and it was clear after 2 days that while the Apex really shines as a street commuter, it is only a so-so trail ebike. There are a lot of reasons for this, but the biggest one is weight. The Apex is simply too heavy and when riding it on the trails it sits right on the edge of the boundary between eMTB and electric motocross. The torque sensing system worked well while trail riding, but whenever I stepped hard on the pedals the rear tire would frequently start to spin out, especially on steep inclines at low speeds. I think this is because at 2500W the Ultra Max is almost too powerful and the rider needs to offer a little restraint.
The Ultra Max drive’s main weak point is undoubtedly the nylon gear. The ebike I tested had a prototype steel gear replacement and it seemed to work flawlessly. Although it was slightly louder than the nylon gear, it was not annoying like the Cyclone and Tangent drive systems are. At 2500W you are guaranteed that any nylon gears are going to peanut butter. My understanding from Eric was that every Ultra Max that left the Lunacycle factory would have steel gears installed in it. The gear reduction ratio on the Ultra Max is quite a bit different from the BBSHD and you can feel that it wants to produce a lot more power at much lower pedal cadences. This produces way more pressure on the primary reduction gear which can cause premature nylon gear failure. I predict that Bafang will sell very few of these Ultra Max drive with the nylon gears while Lunacycle will probably sell tons of them with the 2500W controller and an aftermarket steel gear.
Although I am not a fan of carbon on ebikes, the Apex frame seems solid. Unlike my wobbly crap-ass $1500 Bikes Direct Sniper which I have decided to totally scrap for parts, the Apex carbon frame has almost no discernable flex in the rear swingarm. To test the strength of the rear swingarm Eric filled it with potting material and then ran it over with his ridiculous 30 ton 16 wheeled army truck from hell. It didn’t break.
Riding the Apex was my first experience with the $1800 Rohloff carbon IGH and I have to say it was love at first ride. I will probably never own one of these IGHs because I’m just too damn cheap, but I have to say that you would be a fool to order this ebike without this hub. The amount of range you get is incredible and the Rohloff allows you to shift from a standstill and has a nice feature of locking out the shifting when the hub is under severe load. Shifting under load is what ends up destroying most of my IGH and I have to admit that it’s hard to restrain myself sometimes. The Rohloff allows you to comfortably pedal along at 35mph+ as well as have a fast pedaling cadence when riding up a 30-degree slope from a standstill. It is hands down the nicest drive mechanism I have ever used. On top of that Luna has a $100 guarantee that if you damage your $1800 IGH you can send it back to Luna and they will rebuild it for only $100. I don’t know of any other ebike company that is willing to take those kinds of risks.
Normally going 40mph on an ebike is pretty sketchy. The lighter the ebike is and the skinnier the tires the worse the feeling gets. If you don’t have decent brakes and big rotors you begin to feel like an accident waiting to happen. The Apex is the first ebike I’ve ridden at over 35mph on the street that I was not afraid of. The bike felt more stable and secure on the road, almost like a super lightweight motorcycle. The Rohloff hub allowed me to always pedal along at a comfortable cadence which further added to the illusion of this product as a bicycle. When the pedal cadence is too high at high speeds, it always triggers that fear reflex in your mind, like maybe you really are going too fast. When you have the torque sensing system responding to your every foot pressure it adds to the illusion of control. That really is what high power ebiking is, the illusion of control.
On the trails, the Apex did better than I expected it to. I was able to climb up even the steepest and sandiest slopes without using the throttle and without putting my foot down. I wiped out once at low speeds but that had much more to do with the fact I was riding pretty sketchy stuff with street tires and not so much with the quality of the bike. I still smashed the drive unit once or twice on rocks and logs even though it is up pretty high. The case on the Ultra Max is stupid thick metal so I’m quite certain that the drive unit can take repeated bashings onto rocks. I didn’t try jumping the Apex and in all honesty, I can’t recommend that. I was also incredibly paranoid about smashing and breaking the carbon rims by bunny hopping curbs. The bike is too heavy and the shocks are not high enough quality to bunny hop. If you really want to bunny hop then get an Anthem 2 instead (actually any of the Anthems are pretty awesome, the Anthem 1 has an insane titanium 46T granny).
While trail riding we noticed that the Ultra Max tended to get much hotter than it’s BBSHD cousins on the exact same trails ridden at the same speeds. Whether this is because it has much higher gearing ratio on the motor, or poorer cooling I just don’t know. One of my biggest complaints about the Ultra Max is the chainring adapter. There are several different versions, and although I like the 4 bolt BCD 104 pattern, most of the newer Ultra Max’s seem to have the much larger 5 hole BCD 110 pattern which means you’re not going to be able to mount anything smaller than a 40T chainring on it. Almost all of my snow bikes are running the BBSHD with the 30T or 36T chainring options which produce over-the-top torque. There is just no way to milk these Ultra Max motors for the kind of torque I want when the front chainring is so large. As a side note, when removing the mounting ring for the chainring adapter it is backward threaded to righty loosy and lefty tighty. You also cannot use the standard Luna removal tool to get that ring off as it is inset inside the chainring adapter, but I am assured that a new tool is coming.
The Apex is the perfect ebike for picking up women for any man suffering through a midlife crisis. Just tool around town on this beast and you will look and feel like a superman. I would shine it up and throw on a tuxedo just to complete the image. What this ebike says to the world is “I don’t care how much it costs, I absolutely must have the best”. Throw the optional Lauf Carbonara Carbon Fat Fork on the bike for an extra $200 and the $500 carbon rims and it suddenly becomes a beautiful work of art. Personally, I feel guilty about thrashing this work of art on the trails, but maybe you care a little less about destroying expensive ebikes. My personal favorite for riding in deep snow is still the cheapo $1000ish Sunkiss Deadeye Monster with a BBSHD Ludicrous controller, 30T chainring and a Nexus 3-speed IGH. Tons of torque and I don’t lose any sleep if I break the frame in half.
- Only 2500W factory built torque sensing ebike on the market
- Rohloff gives insane gearing range 526%
- Lots of different options to choose from when you order it
- Custom built in the USA
- Not your parents ebike, nothing on the market looks like this bike
- 28Ah custom carbon ebike pack with a potted BMS and potted 21700 format cells
- Weight (too heavy) – Bike tested with carbon Luna front fork (not recommended), carbon Rolhoff, 28Ah pack and carbon rims
- Better as a commuter then as a serious trail bike
- 2500W Ultra Max feels almost too powerful on the trails
- Carbon seat is way too hard
- Super expensive
- Warranty? What warranty? If you want more than 30 days then you need to pay extra $350/6 mths $700/1 yr
The last 5 cars I have bought have all been <$500 and I tend to get about 3-4 years out of them before they really need to be junked. I have a hard time watching perfectly good cars go to the junkyard and they become kind of like the uncared for pets of a pet hoarder as they sit and rust in my yard. When you can buy perfectly good cars for <$500 it’s hard to justify spending $5000+ on an ebike, but the Apex is the first ebike I’ve seen in that price range that is actually worth the money. The Apex is available here for $5,500 with the stock options.
- Don’t order this ebike with anything other than the 2500W Ludicrous mode (+$250). Just don’t.
- Don’t expect to keep the beautiful carbon fiber seat, it is an absolute ass buster.
- Don’t order this ebike without the Rohloff $1800 option. It’s awesome.
The Apex is the first ebike I’ve ever ridden that I would classify as ‘serious transportation choice’. If you’re thinking of turning your crappy traffic stalled LA commute into a leisurely ride along the Strand every day, then the Apex is the kind of ebike you would feel good about selling your car and using as your only form of transportation. Riding it on the street was pure joy and it got lots of attention from people. That being said an ebike like this is going to attract bike thieves like nobodies business, so I would not leave this bike along and unlocked for even a second. It screams ‘steal me’ like nothing else I’ve ever seen. If you want to see what you can get away with on the streets and on bike paths then this ebike is a perfect choice because it looks enough like a bicycle that even at 35+ mph as long as you’re pedaling along, everyone will pretty much ignore you.
Break the law, get away with it.